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« Reply #15 Posted on: September 14, 2006, 03:48:00 pm »

there' s no question about the logic of the program.

but maybe we also try to look at why OOP was created and how come new technoligies evolved nowadays.

OOP was created to make programmers lives easier. it is not all about the "syntax" it is how we manipulate the raw data to make it into a meanigful information.

one big difference is how we are able to reuse objects into another application.  the limitted capablities of a procedural programming langauge can be filled up by a more flexible and robust OOP language but not vice versa.

just take this example: writing a solution to display the string in reverse.
    in C we solved it writing a loop program and use the "--" decrement operator as it access the array
    it consumes two to three lines of processing commands
   but in c++ an existing class is already at hand and then all we have to do is instantiate an object of that class and then it returns the string in   
   reverse.
Now you tell me if that's a question of the "LOGIC" of the program.  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #16 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 07:36:11 am »

weeeeeeeee......how detailed Miggy is in terms of elaborating such programming laguages....weeeeeeee......im proud of you miggy.....hehehehehe...
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« Reply #17 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 09:39:40 am »

logic is limitless even when it
seemed kina the same.

my group found the case where
we also wanted that reverse string
and related stuff, howerver at times
when we were said to create so many
stuff for games no such objects existed
or atleast for free in this case.

being trained on full understanding
on so many logics, allowed us with
limitless solutions on how to accomplish
so many objects of our use in relation
to our other projects.

logic isn't just a simple word - it's defined as:
"correct reasoning", which in this case
is how to "understand the problem" and
create solutions for it.

hint:  on microsoft interviews, they won't just
ask you about codes - "they'll ask you problems
and in return you should give answers using pure
logic", which means - create your own solutions
instead of using that's existing.

even though i'm not from microsoft, my examination
were almost all logic.  :-)
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« Reply #18 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 09:40:50 am »

logic is limitless even when it
seemed kina the same.

my group found the case where
we also wanted that reverse string
and related stuff, howerver at times
when we were said to create so many
stuff for games no such objects existed
or atleast for free in this case.

being trained on full understanding
on so many logics, allowed us with
limitless solutions on how to accomplish
so many objects of our use in relation
to our other projects.

logic isn't just a simple word - it's defined as:
"correct reasoning", which in this case
is how to "understand the problem" and
create solutions for it.

hint: on microsoft interviews, they won't just
ask you about codes - "they'll ask you problems
and in return you should give answers using pure
logic", which means - create your own solutions
instead of using that's existing.

even though i'm not from microsoft, my examination
were almost all logic. :-)

nice piece.....i like it..
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« Reply #19 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 09:44:47 am »

@FTPManager

dali a ra ka reply ah!!!
mura man P5... hehehehe  :wink:

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« Reply #20 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 09:45:42 am »

hehehehe.....ako pa...joke......
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« Reply #21 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 02:56:48 pm »

hint: on microsoft interviews, they won't just
ask you about codes - "they'll ask you problems
and in return you should give answers using pure
logic", which means - create your own solutions
instead of using that's existing.

even though i'm not from microsoft, my examination
were almost all logic. :-)

Please don't get me wrong.
My post was just in response to your previous posts
that it doesn't matter if what programming language
you are going to implement a particular application.

Examination are ought to be "pure logic, hardcoded"
since they want to test your logica/analysis.

Pagilok gamay nga comment:

case-to-case basis pre...

if your project is embedded then
obviously it is either you implement it in low-level
or mid-level C language.

if you are into windows application
hehhehehe please ayaw na lang gamit ug procedural.
daghan naman API from the OOP languages...that offers
ATL and COM+ or DCOM capabilities for multithreading
applications and reusable codes or libraries.

if you are into web application
nisamot 4th Generation languages na gyud na!

mao ra na akong point. as i have said  The logic is out of
the question.  it is in how we access, organize and manipulate
the data. 
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« Reply #22 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 02:58:45 pm »

so does that means, you are capable of being a programmer in Microsoft....just asking....lolz
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« Reply #23 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 03:01:23 pm »

does it mean also that if you are not working in Microsoft you are no longer a good one? 
or capable of writting good optimum programs? :mrgreen:

besides programming is just a hobby.  i am into mutual funds business...eh FYI!  :wink:
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« Reply #24 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 03:02:28 pm »

im just asking.....because it is what in your statement lolz....
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« Reply #25 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 03:04:29 pm »

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im just asking.....because it is what in your statement lolz....

and what statement would that be?
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« Reply #26 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 03:05:20 pm »

ayyy...kang flash master diay...
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« Reply #27 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 03:06:59 pm »

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hmmmm now you need some eyeglasses...things are too blurry for you....  :evil:
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« Reply #28 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 04:02:31 pm »

logic isn't just a simple word - it's defined as:
"correct reasoning", which in this case
is how to "understand the problem" and
create solutions for it.

i agree!

logic was not only meant as the logic of the program..

there are a lot of individuals who are not programmers by course but can program well.. why? because they have the logic! the comprehension needed to understand and create such programs.. all they do is just study the language's syntax..

again, correct me if im wrong.. what i meant by logic here is the "LOGIC of the person"... that is what he/she should develop..

sa bisaya pa.. "ang logic nimo" :)
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« Reply #29 Posted on: September 15, 2006, 04:11:54 pm »

in programming it is not only pure Logic...

in the case of best practices of one language
what runs (which is logical to you) isn't the optimum solution.

still you have to consider performance, quality and efficiency.
that is acceptable to the client.
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